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EventMaster Rank to host Pvp events more Proffesional


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  1. 1. Would you like to have more Events ?

    • Yeah, i think that would make icecold much more fun
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I can support this.

 

Whenever we try to hold serious events as players people just completely ignore what we say.

 

In multiple cases the option to .freeze someone would have helped drastically.

 

I think to make this who Event Master status more viable, a gm should be online to deal with abuse if it occurs.

 

The rank can only be held by a select few who are trusted enough by the Reaper Staff to hold this.

 

If the rank is abused the person gets a 3 day ban first offence then 7 day ban second. Third offence they're banned for two weeks and never able to get the rank again.

 

I think this would greatly help us that try to host events for the players.

 

Most of the time there are the one or two players who ruin an entire event while most follow the rules.

 

I see this as a need.

 

 

 

(Edited due to a good point by Tuff)

 

(Another Edit)

 

To get this rank as mentioned you must be trusted enough by Reaper Staff but I think you should also have to apply via somewhere on the forums.

 

I also think no more than 3 people should hold this power.

 

People with this power should have "Event Master" for their forums title so people on the forums can recognize those who have it.

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I will get on board with this. I gave up on events a long time ago even with GM commands to help, but the few dedicated people left (looking at you Kerm and Tuffi) who are still crazy enough to try would benefit greatly from these kinds of commands. 

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Alright cool.

 

All the support we can get will help.

 

I can understand why Ryan / Jordan would be iffy to try this out, but I think it's a good way to secure more players because then you guys will have a solid 3 people to do events.

 

Along with the whole Event Master rank, the people with it should also be actively doing events, i feel that should be treated the same way as if a GM goes away for an extended period of time.

 

But thank you for the support, try to get more of the staff on board for this.

 

I'm sure the players would love to do more events and players like me Tuff, and Kerm would love to be able to do the events, but as I'm sure you know, there are a few players who ruin it for them all.

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Hmm, you saying what you've said Mustrak gave me thoughts on some of the powers that Event Masters should hold.

 

As I mentioned earlier Event Masters should only be able to .freeze players.

 

I now feel like they should also be able to port to the event areas as well.

 

Just another thought on their powers.

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Well everyone said yes, but I'm not gonna say yes, but I'm not gonna say a no either.

Hear me out, most servers have 3-5 ranks. Ranks cannot be added/removed, just not given. So basically they stay there even if you don't want them there.
So all the ranks are used on Icecold considering we have different GM ranks (if not then the idea will work) and rank 4 (sometimes 5) is the Admin/Dev rank.
Rank one is the VIP rank and the other 2 (sometimes 3) ranks are for GMs.

So it's not going to be easy for the owners to make a rank, or change it considering he has to change one completely.

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This rank can easy be implemented through the database. But the thing is though. If they do this. Ventus would lose his specialty of being an event GM and no one wants Ventus to lose his specialty. Lets just host these events as players. This can go wrong all the time. Its normal. Just try to find new ways to fight it without a simple freeze. For example get a vip 7 as bodyguard. Im sorry to bum you out but Im not going to say yes.

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This rank can easy be implemented through the database. But the thing is though. If they do this. Ventus would lose his specialty of being an event GM and no one wants Ventus to lose his specialty. Lets just host these events as players. This can go wrong all the time. Its normal. Just try to find new ways to fight it without a simple freeze. For example get a vip 7 as bodyguard. Im sorry to bum you out but Im not going to say yes.

 

Im a vip7 paladin, ppl dont fear it they just talk and do faeces they dont mind about getting killed :)

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Im a vip7 paladin, ppl dont fear it they just talk and do faeces they dont mind about getting killed :)

 

Youre the hoster. Get another vip 7 or an overpowered player to keep killing have been hosting events and yes there have been ragers all over the place. You have to let them not to **** with the wrong person. They will give up after a while dont worry. 

 

Why not make a rule instead. If anyone trolls or disobeys the rules and goes ragemode in a serious player hosted event. They will be suspended. That way you can host events without anyone doing stupid stuff and Ventus can have his precious rank he earned.

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Youre the hoster. Get another vip 7 or an overpowered player to keep killing have been hosting events and yes there have been ragers all over the place. You have to let them not to **** with the wrong person. They will give up after a while dont worry. 

 

Why not make a rule instead. If anyone trolls or disobeys the rules and goes ragemode in a serious player hosted event. They will be suspended. That way you can host events without anyone doing stupid stuff and Ventus can have his precious rank he earned.

 

1. You got no clue what you are talking about with the vip7 and overpowerd person, Even if gms sit there and freeze people are there some asses which ruin the event with Killing, Spamming or other stuff. (People dont care about ruining something from another player)

 

2. If you Suspend every player who makes something against a rule you say, you can shut down the whole event because NOBODY listens and NOBODY does that what he get told to do.

 

3. I Would love it if you could show me how you host an event, we also can ask every player who joins mine or kerms events there are a few trollers, spammers or pvp'er in there all the time  :)

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I don't support this. This can and will lead to abuse of power and will ultimately need GM oversight anyways. Bottom line, server events need to be hosted by the GM's. If they don't want to do it, give it up for people who do. I understand it is difficult and really requires more then one GM, 3-4 being ideal.

 

In some ways it would be nice to have "eventmaster" ranks to assist the GM's. but this isn't something that can be turned on and off very easily, needs admin input. I say if there are going to be more events along with higher player traffic, maybe its time to hire a couple more GMs.

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I don't support this. This can and will lead to abuse of power and will ultimately need GM oversight anyways. Bottom line, server events need to be hosted by the GM's. If they don't want to do it, give it up for people who do. I understand it is difficult and really requires more then one GM, 3-4 being ideal.

 

In some ways it would be nice to have "eventmaster" ranks to assist the GM's. but this isn't something that can be turned on and off very easily, needs admin input. I say if there are going to be more events along with higher player traffic, maybe its time to hire a couple more GMs.

Well, you talk about abuse of this rank.

 

I mentioned how to deal with the abuse of the rank.

 

Also, it would a be permanent rank, not temporary. Only 3 people would hold this power and they would have to be trusted by the reaper staff.

 

You would apply for this via forums as well.

 

You people are saying this is something hard to add, and some of you think that VIP7s can control events. I can see this being tricky to add but I also see it being worth their time. Also, VIP7s can't control events AT ALL.

 

Also, Kellian would still be the event specialist, the players with the Event Master rank would not be able to award the Event gear.

 

They can only reward what they have farmed for the players as rewards.

 

This would give Kellian more time to organize better events for those events that would reward the players with the event gear.

 

Again, for those who think this would just lead to serious abuse, please just take a look at what I've said earlier, I added what I see to be effective forms of counter-abuse.

 

So again, just think about this, look over what I've said. This would be a great help.

 

 

PS: If you allow Kellian more time to organize events then I'm sure they'll add MORE events. This would just allow the GMs to take the time to organize them while the player base is still getting events.

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1. You got no clue what you are talking about with the vip7 and overpowerd person, Even if gms sit there and freeze people are there some asses which ruin the event with Killing, Spamming or other stuff. (People dont care about ruining something from another player)

 

2. If you Suspend every player who makes something against a rule you say, you can shut down the whole event because NOBODY listens and NOBODY does that what he get told to do.

 

3. I Would love it if you could show me how you host an event, we also can ask every player who joins mine or kerms events there are a few trollers, spammers or pvp'er in there all the time  :)

 

If nobody cares why doesnt everyone spam world chat and get themselves banned then? Of course the GMs will give them a warning first. Also I have hosted events in the past. Like a 2v2 and 1v1 event. You can ask Chuckey, Db and more. Ill host another if you are on.

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I agree with this and all, But there needs to be applications for this.

 

I don't think Ryan should just hand the rank out to people who host events, so there needs to be Apps, not just randomly given out.

 I've already mentioned that to get this rank you would have to be trusted by the Reaper staff and apply somewhere on the forums. :P

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To begin with, this isn't something we can just "make" one day. Someone said above that we just do it through the database. That's incorrect, ranks are defined through system code. This requires actual development and testing time to achieve.

 

Secondly, it wouldn't be a permanent account rank. There's just no way we're granting some commands to player accounts to be active 24/7. People who hold the commands may be trustworthy, but a fit of anger at someone in the arena overrides any self-control. An event helper rank or command set would be something a GM switches on/off for the person. They would only have it available to them when actually doing an event.

 

If the rank is abused the person gets a 3 day ban first offence then 7 day ban second. Third offence they're banned for two weeks and never able to get the rank again.

Abuse of anything like that wouldn't have that much tolerance. One offense and you're out, forever.

 

Other than that, the rest of your points would be fairly close to how it would be handled.

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To begin with, this isn't something we can just "make" one day. Someone said above that we just do it through the database. That's incorrect, ranks are defined through system code. This requires actual development and testing time to achieve.

 

Secondly, it wouldn't be a permanent account rank. There's just no way we're granting some commands to player accounts to be active 24/7. People who hold the commands may be trustworthy, but a fit of anger at someone in the arena overrides any self-control. An event helper rank or command set would be something a GM switches on/off for the person. They would only have it available to them when actually doing an event.

 

Abuse of anything like that wouldn't have that much tolerance. One offense and you're out, forever.

 

Other than that, the rest of your points would be fairly close to how it would be handled.

Alright, I wasn't sure if they would even get three chances.

 

I was told that it wasn't something that would be turned off and on. So I switched what I said about turning it on for events then back off.

 

But I would love to see it some time in the future and I thinks it's worth your time.

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Instead of giving a rank and deleting another one (which is basically our only option for this idea), we can do this in many different ways, but need to be thought about first.

1. The GM/Devs team make a special place for the event, a place where the 2v2/1v1 event happens, and to their side people who are waiting their turn with PvP OFF and cannot enter the battlefield except by being given a card (item) by the "eventmaster". The card can be given to an NPC which will teleport him to the battlefield, where they'll face their opponent. (Card can be easily added as another item, the NPC might be a little tough but shouldn't be too hard; I know how items work but never worked on NPC's on my server)

Pros:
*Simple, efficient.
*No PvP for those who are waiting.
*Doesn't need a rank/GM whatsoever.


Cons:
*Players (trolls) may refuse to leave the battlefield.
*Players (trolls) may keep their cards and use it to ruin the next event. (which is why I'm proposing it lasts for an hour, but the "eventmaster" is going to loose them so we have a bit of a problem)
*Players are going to look for a glitch to get out of the waiting zone, since that's what people do these days, look for glitches.



I'll add more when I think of them, but this IS what we can do; imo.

Thanks for reading, GL with the idea! 
-Coward, the Manly Dog.

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I'm not sure how well that would work,

 

From what it looks like is that they should just hire some people to the staff that are there to do events.

 

I feel like that would be the best way to do this with minimal effort while still allowing people to do events.

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I'd support this, but there would have to be an application process, excessive surveillance on the rank holders, just enough precautionary steps to avoid anything going up a certain creek. But if it theoretically all worked out perfectly then I'd totally say this is a great idea. 

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