Thanks June for Ur input. Yeah but if you don't pay the highest gear u can get for free if up too VIP1 so PvP you mainly get owned (a lot of people say the hack to get VIP7) and like I said I like dungeons and raids (which dcuo has instances and raids) so I'm gunna try and play both but I mainly wanna focus on this. Do raids and dungeons even work on icecold? Cause before I was on molten cata but the lines were just godawful. But iI noticed there was a raid tab. Thanks